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To each his own I say and whatever makes you happy is what you should do. "Know thyself" |
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I'm hoping at no point did I come across in a way that I felt I was "all that and a bag of chips" and that I was too good for racing. I know there are plenty of drivers that would blow my doors off but I just felt that being brutally honest was the best way to get my point across. It's just hard to know how others will interpret your words. At least I know here I won't be attacked like those that frequently do on Rennlist. GT2GT3CUP.org is truly a place I feel like we can be honest and nobody will take joy in insulting you. What a great community! Quote:
I much prefer to just fill up the tank, drink beer, and not give a damn if you forgot to adjust your pressures. Besides, I have nobody to impress anymore except my 1 and 3 year old boys.....my future racers Last edited by Dell; 05-16-2011 at 03:22 PM. |
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The answers to this thread has been surprising to me, I was expecting a lot more in favor of racing, getting ready for racing, etc. I think we are probably a little too small of a community just yet.
Dell, really eloquently put. And I am so much like Peter, I just want to drive and want the car to be reliable not to mess with it. The social aspect of a DE as well as instructing makes my weekend every single time. I, on behalf of all the people that put their sweat into this, truly appreciate the words and so glad you feel that way. Thank you, it means a lot to us.
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I race karts- situps and a bit of laydown, in the WKA NRRS (National Road Race Series). At the speeds we go in that series we are very serious about the prep level and driver ability. DE is a vacation compared to racing. My progression went from DE, to open wheel, to road racing karts, and now probably back to DE in the long term. In DE there is no stress, there is no competition, the only thing pushing you is yourself. I liken a DE day to a ski resort day- you can have as much fun as you want- you can rip the backcountry black diamonds if you have the ability and equipment, or play on the groomer greens if you're so inclined. I am not going to be the next MSC so I don't worry about racing at the sharp end of the grid anymore, so I race for fun (karts are way cheaper than open wheel cars). DE is very different from racing. Racing is about competing within a very defined set of rules- DE is about learning how to drive better. In the end, life is too short to worry about what the next guy thinks as long as you're keeping to yourself. |
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I like hanging out with my buddies. BBQing at lunch. Drinking beer at the end of the day and I like that I can go out and blast for a session or just pass and repass my friends for fun. It's amazing what can be learned by constantly driving offline. I've thought about racing but I don't think I'm all that committed to perfecting setup. I can drive around almost anything. That is why a Lemons type race appeals to me. Minimal $$$ outlay and loads of fun. What's not to like? It is very doubtful you will see me in a CupCar anytime soon. If I took the $$$ from better places I could find a way but I just don't see the point for me. I'm too busy at work and I like to do other things as well. Racing at a high level is another job. A job I have to pay big $$$ to do. Something I really don't need right now although a part of me does see the appeal. Unlimited budget? Different story. My GT3 is modded. Not because I wanted to go faster. More that I got bored and wanted to try something new. I figured it was cheaper than buying a new car. And it was. And Mooty was a bad influence. I'm like him though I typically use all my tires until they cord. Then I can't believe how much stick a new set of tires has. I like that I can blow off a session at a DE if I'm not into it or ride with another instructor. At an open day I like arriving mid morning and going until I'm tired and think I've had enough. I enjoy DEs.
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Late to the thread, but great read.
OT, but Mooty, bigger is better: This is the engine you need: http://www.sporttruckrv.com/TruckDetail/AU2422 I do race and have the trophy's: http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/ Won overall; Got $1500.00 in nickels Won in class. Won price for doing the most with the least. Won for whatever, I forget. A blast to do on the cheap. had a TON of fun. But racing is work and I already have a job. Let's say I go racing; Must have coaching, must analyse data, must practice, must setup car, must have newest and best. Everything must be perfect. Other cheat. Should you?? If you don't do all the above you're a loser and are getting lapped. So next time you do it ALL. Get t-boned off the track in T1 and go home. I have seen enough racing and the trauma is creates to stay away from it all. DE; I must only show up and refill tank and drink beer. Yes, I'm a bit hung over or a lot, car is a bit pushy and I should change tire pressure and sway bar but I am to laze to bend down, just drive around the problem. Have fun. It gets to hot, you skip a session, etc. etc.
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Fatih, I stopped posting regularly in the racing/DE forum over 2 years ago for the very things I stated above. This place (GT2GT3cup.org) for us to share info reminds me much more of the 996GT3 subforum on Rennlist. There is an immense amount of repsect and commraderie amongst the guys. You rarely ever see a smackdown there. The racing/DE forum it is a daily occurrence and just makes you not want to visit.
Just 3 short days from now I'll be on my balcony watching the climbing esses with a cold beer in my hand! |
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One of my favorite shots when I first went to VIR with the local guys in my 996 C4S. |
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Drive a little on the track, stare at beatiful cars, have some fun afterwards with people who can still stand you after talking cars for hours on end ;-) and contemplate that there are really a lot of people out there who's life really sucks a lot more then your because they either don't know how or can't enjoy life.
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Peter National PCA Instructor. Pics and youtubes ==> Daily driver '10RS white/gold. White OEM RS roll bar, red schroth seat belts, CUP LSD, lip and Gurney, Sharky, V1, K40 laser blocker. Sold '07GT3 white |
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+1 as usual for my friend Fatih. Quote:
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Have fun, be safe, enjoy. |
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Peter, I just got a good laugh out of that gif! I was waiting for an image to load thinking my computer was a bit slow and finally realized that the image waiting to load is actually the spinning progress image. Touche'
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Dell, I saw it in my reply. How did that get there???
I thought I deleted it and I don't see it now. I was not trying to anoy you LOL.
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Peter National PCA Instructor. Pics and youtubes ==> Daily driver '10RS white/gold. White OEM RS roll bar, red schroth seat belts, CUP LSD, lip and Gurney, Sharky, V1, K40 laser blocker. Sold '07GT3 white |
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So you were messing with me!
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